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Title: Happiness
Post by: MegaMedic on April 11, 2014, 03:23:05 PM

What does "happiness" means to you? What things makes you happy?

Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: Loki on April 11, 2014, 04:49:22 PM
i cant believe im joining this discussion

- success makes me happy, success in every way
- good marks in school
- when our PM doesn't listen to EU/NATO bullshit
- when I find some quality subtitles for movies hah
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: Machine Medic on April 12, 2014, 01:38:06 AM
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What things makes you happy?

Very few things, to be honest.

Primarily, working on things that I am passionate about, like my clan, certain electrical projects, Murnatan.

I'm a misanthrope though, dealing with people is pretty irritating for me.  Laughing at some people's stupidity is kind of fun.

Breaking rules without getting caught is kind of fun too.   :D

Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: grmg.pl on April 12, 2014, 10:55:01 PM
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working on things that I am passionate about
/passvote
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: MegaMedic on April 12, 2014, 11:44:35 PM
I agree. Atm I'm 17 and in future I want to do something that I like, not all bullshits jobs. Some of you guys must be more older than me. Do you like your current job that you have? (if you have one)
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: grmg.pl on April 13, 2014, 11:35:38 AM
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/07/10-reasons-you-should-never-get-a-job/ (http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/07/10-reasons-you-should-never-get-a-job/)

Probably the best piece about job vs "your own thing". Couldn't read that too soon.

1. From my own experience - instead of trying to get "one big thing/next_facebook_idea" - start 10-20 smaller things as most of them are going to fail anyway, but you'll get broader experience first.
2. It's better to learn why 19 small things failed than one big since "the one big idea" is going to fail for the same reasons the 19 will fail.
3. Sooner or later some thing is gonna hook and will bring in the dough - and that's the moment you'll get deeper experience in one subject.
4. School/uni - is great, but will NEVER teach you how to make $ doing your own things. Educate yourself while you still have time and don't need to focus your energy on making $.
5. Note your thoughts, ideas, lessons using pen and a notebook. Is there a recurring theme? Also - the quality of your writing reflects the quality of you thoughts.
6. The sooner you start the better, even if you fail a lot. Just don't start by investing $.
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: Loki on April 13, 2014, 11:49:06 AM
oh i almost forgot

i am very happy when I finally find a pornstar to my taste
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: Machine Medic on April 13, 2014, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: Mega
Do you like your current job that you have?

I've got a weekend job in a pool and spa store working retail... I wouldn't say it's fun, but it pays for my projects and the things I want.

I eventually plan to become a licensed electrician through a technical college.  Paperwork, algebra, and being polite to annoying people aren't my strong points.  I like to work with my hands, because there are no rules (aside from physics) as to what you can and cannot create given the right funds and enough ingenuity.



Quote from: grmg
job vs "your own thing"

I still agree with the argument that there is far too much of a "money for nothing" attitude in societies today... I am not disputing the fact that free money is awesome regardless, but when people stop working and start leeching the products of everyone else's hard labor, what value are they in the world?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo-cUZ2aRKc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo-cUZ2aRKc)

Just remember that Murnatan wouldn't even exist right now if Rotacak had decided to take the easy way out and start drop-shipping packages from home, generating ad revenue on the internet, or some other pathetic back-seat job.  Of course, it's fine if 10,000, 100,000, or even 1,000,000 people take that route... but if every person in the world stopped putting effort into their work, nothing would ever get done. 

I guess what I'm saying is, just because you may figure out an easy way to make money with little or no effort, don't treat everyone else that *does* suffer through 8 hours of work every day like crap... or else the next time you need your car fixed, air conditioning repaired, or water heater replaced, you might end up having to do the repairs yourself.   :P



The trick is to do what you love.  If you don't appreciate what you do, you will fail.
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: grmg.pl on April 13, 2014, 09:30:32 PM
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"money for nothing" (...)free money
Does not exist in reality. To get you a reality check - give an example of an activity, a business or an individual that "has money for nothing".


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drop-shipping packages from home, generating ad revenue on the internet, or some other pathetic back-seat job
Ever tried this "easy" way out? Again no such thing exist in real world.

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easy way to make money with little or no effort
Guess what I'm gonna say here.

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8 hours of work
Start your own business and come back to read what you wrote.

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but if every person in the world stopped putting effort into their work, nothing would ever get done (...) next time you need your car fixed, air conditioning repaired, or water heater replaced, you might end up having to do the repairs yourself.
You fail at understanding the basics  :) If there's no one to fix my car that means the car repair position is free  to take. And since there is only ONE car repairman - he can put any price on his work.
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: Machine Medic on April 13, 2014, 10:44:13 PM
I'm not understanding where this argument is going.

To be honest, it sounds somewhat like you are agreeing with me - you are confronting the elitist attitude of "real jobs are for losers and dumb people" found in the link you cited (like I did in my post), and yet you are still attacking me for supporting the legitimacy of traditional income sources.

Clarify.
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: grmg.pl on April 14, 2014, 12:16:51 AM
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you are confronting the elitist attitude
I can't confront something that is just a false belief. No such thing as elitist attitude exist in real world.

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the elitist attitude of "real jobs are for losers and dumb people"
You'll find that most "elite" got there by hard work and being smart.

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yet you are still attacking
"Poor Medic is being attacked" vs "he's having false things in his statements pointed out". You get to choose the interpretation.
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: Machine Medic on April 14, 2014, 12:36:42 AM
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Poor Medic is being attacked

I'm trying to understand what exactly you are mad at me about, because there is something being lost in translation between languages.  If you are just going to insult me and avoid the question altogether, I'm perfectly happy to stop feeding you.

 :P





Quote from: .oOContra*MachineMedic
I'm a misanthrope

Because of ill behavior like this.
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: Machine Medic on April 14, 2014, 07:13:56 AM
Quote from: Mega
What things makes you happy?
My birthday as of 13 minutes ago.   :P

Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: grmg.pl on April 14, 2014, 10:08:01 AM
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you are mad at me
Where did you get this from?  :o

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insult me
Quote the point where I insulted you.

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I'm a misanthrope, Because of ill behavior like this
Happy B-day to you Mr. President, drop the "I'm hurt/people are bad" act and go get laid by some Norma Jean. To do this you gotta be positive and fun as no girl will go for sad and bad-energy guy. Unless of course you're "passionate about it" :D
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: Machine Medic on April 14, 2014, 11:48:28 PM
Quote from: grmg
Where did you get this from? [...]  Quote the point where I insulted you.

As I have said before, I believe the meaning of your posts is not holding up across translation very well.  Inflection is not transmitted across the internet without very careful word placement, and a language barrier makes that even more difficult. 

Now, it sounds like you are saying above that you were not trying to insult me in your replies.  I have been trying to get you to explain what you exactly were trying to say in your last three posts, but you keep ignoring my question, so I've been forced to guess at your intent based off of the wording of your comments.

I don't know exactly how you meant some of your statements in your own language, but as they appear in English after whatever translation service you used, some of them carry implied insults that I don't honestly think you intended.  While I am not butt-hurt or offended about what exactly you may or may not have said in that case, you have refused to explain your *true* meaning in your posts, and so I have had to make my own assumptions. 

I don't *know* if you are trying to insult me, or just make harmless jokes.  If you want your meaning to be perceived correctly, then you need to explain it better when someone asks for you to elaborate on your intent, as I have already done twice.

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Quote from: grmg
get laid by some Norma Jean.
Who the hell is Norma Jean anyways?

Quote from: grmg
no girl will go for sad and bad-energy guy.
I don't swing that way, and I'm not worried about -or interested in- associating with other people right now as it is.  If I meet someone that I can stand being in the same room with for more than a few hours, I certainly won't push them away - but until then, that is not one of my concerns.

Quote from: grmg
drop the "I'm hurt/people are bad" act
What exactly do you have against me hating how a lot of people behave?  People are generally disrespectful, two-faced, hypocritical, and otherwise not to be trusted without extreme scrutiny.


Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: grmg.pl on April 15, 2014, 10:47:10 AM
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I have been trying to get you to explain what you exactly were trying to say in your last three posts, but you keep
Well, my last 3 posts are quite straightforward IMO. You talk about things you have no idea about, never dug deeper into, and since I have - I'm showing you where you're talking about things that do not exist in real world ("elitist" attitude,  "money for nothing", and so on) or exist only as you opinion/belief (feel free to have it, but it has no reflection in facts). Does that compute?  ;D

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translation service you used
I has been using the morest common one :D

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Who the hell is Norma Jean anyways?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg5HIMnPx7k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg5HIMnPx7k)


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People are generally disrespectful, two-faced, hypocritical,
Generally, they are not.

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and otherwise not to be trusted without extreme scrutiny.
Yeah, given the opportunity most people would take advantage of you. That assumes you have something of value for people. Well, do ya?

People behave to hold the standards you set for them, you set poor ones (disrespectful, two-faced, hypocritical) so you get just this. Try the opposite for a month.
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: Machine Medic on April 15, 2014, 11:11:38 PM
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People are generally disrespectful, two-faced, hypocritical,
Generally, they are not.


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and otherwise not to be trusted without extreme scrutiny.
Yeah, given the opportunity most people would take advantage of you.

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Generally, they are not [disrespectful, two-faced, hypocritical] ... given the opportunity most people would take advantage of you.

Exploiting someone who has done nothing to wrong you is a petty, two-faced, disrespectful, and shameful act in and of itself that degrades the quality of life for the victim.

You are contradicting yourself.  Don't be a hypocrite.

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People behave to hold the standards you set for them, you set poor ones (disrespectful, two-faced, hypocritical) so you get just this. Try the opposite for a month.

Based on my experiences in the last 10 years, I could not have possibly made a more untrue statement if I tried.

Historically, from elementary school all the way until my sophomore year in high school, I was always striving to be the nicest person I possibly could to everyone.  All that ever got me was bullied, ridiculed, depressed, and stabbed in the back (figuratively) by someone who was at the time my best (and only) friend for 3 years. 

Ever visited 1.1 recently?  Log into any of the lettard servers for half an hour and tell me exactly how nice any of those cunts treat you if you try to start a friendly conversation.  I've played Tremulous regularly since 2010.  At least half of the playerbase is still a cesspool to this day.

A 48,000 Watt variable laboratory power supply - my current electronics and metalworking project that I have focused huge amounts of my time and energy on:

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k553/TankCrusher210/IMAG0425E_zpsc77c416a.png)

I have spent at least 100 hours and hundreds of dollars planning, drafting, experimenting, testing, purchasing, and now building this project up to this point.  I have put all of my knowledge and experience into it.  Every day I work on it, I put the absolute most care into perfecting every single aspect about it.

And yet people have the gall to insult it and me by saying things like "you shouldn't spend so much money on a stupid doll-house", or "what is that, an overpriced solar hot-dog cooker?".

No, in my experience almost every day, 90-98% of all people I deal with end up being a total waste of my time, and an unnecessary burden for me to concern myself with.  I don't know if it's different where you come from, or if you just have much lower standards than me, but the only thing most of the human race has ever done for me is make me absolutely certain that I don't like, trust, or have respect most other people.

Pleasant humans are an exception to the rule... it takes a lot of time and patience to sift through all the shit to get to the decent ones.


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P.S.  Here's a sample of the care and competence that *other* people put into their own projects:

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k553/TankCrusher210/IMAG04021_zps92d72cef.jpg)

Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: grmg.pl on April 16, 2014, 10:58:03 AM
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You are contradicting yourself.  Don't be a hypocrite.
LOL.
Here's a wiki for you (http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Joke)

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I was always striving to be the nicest person I possibly could to everyone. All that ever got me was bullied, ridiculed, depressed, and stabbed in the back (figuratively) by someone who was at the time my best (and only) friend for 3 years.

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Ever visited 1.1 recently?  Log into any of the lettard servers for half an hour and tell me exactly how nice any of those cunts treat you if you try to start a friendly conversation.  I've played Tremulous regularly since 2010.  At least half of the playerbase is still a cesspool to this day.
Yeah, only bad people play 1.1. Really nice people only play 1.2. I blame the devs for 102 buildpoints and imbalance. Yeah its the buildpoints or the 400hp rant. Or perhaps you are just this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK1Lvo2GEB0)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPDPtt-eCn0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPDPtt-eCn0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b3TDCPZFKg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b3TDCPZFKg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3sy41VOB2o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3sy41VOB2o)

And lastly the single best quote about you.

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There's a difference between being a nice, easygoing person who can take a joke, and being a doormat.

Long time ago I decided not to bring my "Rcz (RIP :D)" attitude here, so enough from me. You do what you gotta do Medic, be yourself and be miserable, well I meant misanthrope, just remember as usual it's your choice as it's your life.
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: imp on April 16, 2014, 11:52:30 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPDPtt-eCn0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPDPtt-eCn0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b3TDCPZFKg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b3TDCPZFKg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3sy41VOB2o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3sy41VOB2o)

Oh my god this guy is just ridiculous. Its so easy to tell from those bullshit videos that he has outsized problems with his own psyche.
Get a little distance grmg. Not everyone will live their life like you do, and that doesn't make em pussys.
For one man being brave means to jump with parachute, for other its to go outside their house but humans psyche is too fucked up and complicated to judge everyone equally by same standards.
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: Machine Medic on April 16, 2014, 10:38:22 PM
LOL.
Here's a wiki [about how to take a joke] for you (http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Joke)
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There's a difference between being a nice, easygoing person who can take a joke, and being a doormat.

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Quote from: Maccina
I'm not understanding where this argument is going. [...] Clarify.
Quote from: Machine
I'm trying to understand [...] there is something being lost in translation between languages.
Quote from: Meds
As I have said before, I believe the meaning of your posts is not holding up across translation very well.  Inflection is not transmitted across the internet without very careful word placement, and a language barrier makes that even more difficult.
Quote from: Machine Medic
I have been trying to get you to explain what you exactly were trying to say in your last three posts [...] I've been forced to guess at your intent based off of the wording of your comments.
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I don't know exactly how you meant some of your statements in your own language [...] While I am not butt-hurt or offended about what exactly you may or may not have said [...] I have had to make my own assumptions
Quote from: Machine F*cking Medic
I don't *know* if you are trying to insult me, or just make harmless jokes.  If you want your meaning to be perceived correctly, then you need to explain it better

I have explicitly told you a minimum of six times that your meaning is not being reflected in your words.

I have no patience to continue a written discussion with someone who does not comprehend that their tone of voice and inflection are not transmitted out of their butt, into their computer screen, across the internet, and out of my own speakers whenever I read the words they have written on this forum, and yet accuse me of taking jokes too seriously after many warnings that such is not the case.

You sir, are either incompetent or a troll.



Continue your argument with someone else.

Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: grmg.pl on April 17, 2014, 12:21:22 AM
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You sir, are either incompetent or a troll.
Unfortunately I can't hear your tone of voice or inflection, so I can't tell if you're making a joke or trying to insult me. :D

BTW: Ignore the important content, nitpick the details, then put the blame on me. Commendable effort on maintaining fake persona.
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: kdude63 on April 17, 2014, 12:42:54 AM
!kickvote grmg.pl
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: grmg.pl on April 17, 2014, 09:02:08 AM
It's /callvote kick  :D
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: MegaMedic on April 19, 2014, 09:47:34 PM
I still haven't read everything but I will do it later.


Everytime, every day, I don't feel nothing. I feel like life is going so fast, and I don't do nothing, only hope that I will finish High School, and moving on up, like traveling.
Well, I'm really fucked up at the moment, because I don't see happiness on me. I playing games, but it's not same like old times. I'm waiting for Easter (which is gonna be soon) but I don't feel something happy inside me. Everytime I feel that I'm really bored of this world, and if I'm gonna hear something like "tomorrow I will die", I really feel that I don't care.
I keep thinking: the hell I'm gonna do with my life? I'm not so good in High School, my grades are not so really nice and I don't like to study so much. I'm thinking what to do in future, and I have some plans like: trying to earn some money and go in Japan/Thailand as a English teacher, to see other world, and don't only stay here like a shit.
I never went outside from my city, and I'm really tired of it. My parents doesn't want to let me go somewhere, they just keep crying when they buy me clothes on Easter and Christmas.

So back to our subject, I still don't feel shit to be happy insinde me. At the moment, I only hope for my future to be a good one, as I wish, but if this is gonna went bad, well, then I would say that I was born in this world to be like an idiot.


+ ADD

When I see that people go to club, go to parties, drink, fuck girls, smoking and other shits, it just make me pee on them. I really don't see happiness from this, I only see a bullshit
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: grmg.pl on April 20, 2014, 11:35:53 AM
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I playing games, but it's not same like old times
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and I don't like to study so much
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When I see that people go to club, go to parties, drink, fuck girls, smoking and other shits, it just make me pee on them
You don't like to play computer games, you don't like to study, you don't like to drink, you don't like to party and so on. So by elimination - what DO you like to do?


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I only hope for my future to be a good one
A quote from X-Files: "We predict the future. And the best way to predict it, is to invent it."

No amount of hope is going to make your life better. It's like standing in the rain and waiting for it to stop. It's gonna rain anyway, instead of "hoping it will stop" why not buy an umbrella?

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I only hope for my future to be a good one, as I wish, but if this is gonna went bad, well, then I would say that I was born in this world to be like an idiot.
So, you're standing in the rain, hoping it will stop and if it won't stop raining you're an idiot. Well, which part does make you an idiot here?

"it didn't stop raining > I'm an idiot" vs "I chose to stand in the rain > I'm an idiot"


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I keep thinking: the hell I'm gonna do with my life?
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trying to earn some money and go in Japan/Thailand as a English teacher, to see other world, and don't only stay here like a shit.
Why not decide that "in your life" you're going to make a lot of money. Then, when you have financial stability at 25 (because you started at 17) you will be able to explore - maybe I like to party and have sex with hot girls? Or maybe I like to teach english. Or maybe this or maybe that.


Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: MegaMedic on April 20, 2014, 12:35:51 PM
Thank you for your answers. It makes me feel more better somehow :)

Hope others will answer too.
Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: Machine Medic on April 21, 2014, 04:25:11 AM
Quote from: Mega
Everytime, every day, I don't feel nothing. I feel like life is going so fast, and I don't do nothing, only hope that I will finish High School, and moving on up, like traveling.
Quote from: Mega
I keep thinking: the hell I'm gonna do with my life? I'm not so good in High School, my grades are not so really nice and I don't like to study so much.
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When I see that people go to club, go to parties, drink, fuck girls, smoking and other shits, it just make me pee on them. I really don't see happiness from this, I only see a bullshit

Sounds to me like you are searching for something you can be passionate about.  I cannot tell you how to solve that... You must find the things you believe in on your own.

What I can tell you is that once you do find the things you want to accomplish with your life, you'll need to sink your teeth in hard, and never let go.  Grades and money are only tools that can help you to reach those goals... They will only help you if you are passionate about succeeding in the areas you wish to pursue.

Nobody can tell you what is best for you, or what the best way to live your life is.  Don't blindly follow other people's models just because you want to 'fit in' or try to be happy.  Just because something brings someone else happiness or 'popularity' doesn't mean that it will automatically bring you happiness, or be best decision for your life as well.  Only base your decisions in life on weather or not they are something you truly believe in.


Title: Re: Happiness
Post by: Machine Medic on April 23, 2014, 02:33:40 AM
Quote from: Machine
Nobody can tell you what is best for you, or what the best way to live your life is.  Don't blindly follow other people's models

http://retro.grooveshark.com/s/Empire/54CItQ?src=5 (http://retro.grooveshark.com/s/Empire/54CItQ?src=5)

Quote from: Delta Heavy
Purpose and meaning are not to be found in the laws of nature... It is our job to create them.