Quote from: ^3Pikachu on May 25, 2013, 10:28:21 AM

It would be cool if turrets wouldn't have pinpoint precision aim

In my trem 1.1 mod, my turrets actually kinda aim behind so if you travel fast enough that the turret can aim while pinpoint shooting you, it will continuously try to adjust while firing at the same time, making a delay effect where it misses ~60% of the time, depending on your speed.

In other words, it has 3 aiming speeds, and it tries to constantly switch between two of them:
fastest - doesn't shoot at all
Moderate - Aiming and shooting
Slowest - Very accurate, but sucks against fast targets.

That's cool, is that mod on any server? I also thought of a system where turrets track movement and try to predict by extrapolating average motion vectors over a given timespan. So a cunning player would still be able to trick it. I personally like the strafing mechanic for taking down turrets, not sure how the game plays without it.

Maybe humans could have a similar device (for balance). A disposable item that makes them inaudible and invisible on alien radar for a certain duration.

It would be cool if turrets wouldn't have pinpoint precision aim, so as an alien you could see bullets impact around you, (ricochets and puff clouds) This would be helpful when multiple turrets are firing, the visuals would indicate how much turrets are/were firing at you. It could be a purely visual thing though, might be annoying when turrets shoot humans in the line of fire.

Writing off people as nabs isn't going to help you much with making your game

I don't really agree with the Q3 comparison (Q1 netplay feels like swimming through mud on speed, I can't stand it), the core gameplay is very different and there is no melee aspect. Try pouncing around with a goon or chomping vs Q3 players, you'd get the same set of problems. You can still get chomped for the other side of the room due to differences in client and server states. You also get shot around corners all the time because of the large lag compensation needed to have the game run smooth over net play. For online melee the melee needs to have an element of tactics over twitch reactions you can get away with over lan or splitscreen. Not to mention the discrepancy between renderer and gamestate. If the game were a bit slower the tactics would become more essential. When does the human reload? Chomping around corners would be less of a guesswork. Rifling dretches would be less a roll of the dice. Trem core gameplay is great, but it was not made with latency in mind. I think lag is one of the most annoying things in Trem, it's much more visible than in other games even with lower pings. Also the stakes tend to be higher. When you've invested in credits or evos it sucks dying because of lag. Then again maybe I'm just wrong and it would make the game less fun? Needs testing.

Other issues:

Wallwalking is too disorienting. Not to mention there's too much crap on the average wall, often without clipping considerations. It's a shame because wallwalking is really usefull on the maps that are built with it in mind.

Melee isn't a area attack, this is just fundamentally counter intuitive. You have aliens with big fang and teeth but the attacks are registered as a line from the center of the screen. Damage done should be dependent on aiming, the more precise the aim the more damage, it shouldn't be a binary hit/no hit thing. It should slash across the screen and not be like firing a bullet. Legend of Grimrock has a cool slashing effect that I think would work well for Trem.

It will look great next to my plushy tent and campfire.

Will it build an overmind in my backyard? 

Rota, are you going to make use of Unreal's mutator system?