I waited quietly for beta versions and you guys write such sad things. I understand both rotack and timbo arguments. You guys should talk seriously about tremulous 2 before making this forum and kickstarter. Therefore I like idea making tremulous game for cash, what else would motivate people to code?So, me and my polish friends would like to play in the future (not that much as in the past ) new trem, just need to inform them. Good luck with the project rotacak.