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Offline grmg.pl on: November 22, 2012, 12:08:40 PM

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1. "Cannot evolve while wallwalking" - I see no reason for this other than engine limitations.
2. I'm in window room, next to OM and can't evo, because some dude is rifling an acid tube blocking the door :/. Maybe make it dependable on line of sight, proximity to OM/eggs etc or similar mechanics.
3. Any more details on the flying alien? Pls no bee-like models, this is really overused :D

Offline Rotacak #1 on: November 22, 2012, 12:40:52 PM

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1. This is not an engine limitation. I think that It is just not finished, so they denied it in T1, because it is causing problems.
2. This is good for gameplay - rushing humans have better chance. Anyway detecting anything through walls (to different rooms) is not best thing, but I don't know yet, how we will make it.
3. Attack with vampire biting, ability to gain very fast speed, wings can be damaged.

Offline grmg.pl #2 on: November 22, 2012, 01:34:08 PM

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ability to gain very fast speed
That translates into open spaces.
That translates into Massdriver camp.
Unless you could evolve to "flying alien" and then to goon and higher. Or if goon is below "flying alien" than to AdvGoon.

Offline mario #3 on: November 22, 2012, 04:03:00 PM

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ability to gain very fast speed
That translates into open spaces.
That translates into Massdriver camp.
Unless you could evolve to "flying alien" and then to goon and higher. Or if goon is below "flying alien" than to AdvGoon.
exactly, how will you evolve as a tyrant on the wall?

It would look funny if you saw an alien doing that xD

Offline Rotacak #4 on: November 22, 2012, 05:03:26 PM

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exactly, how will you evolve as a tyrant on the wall?

It would look funny if you saw an alien doing that xD
It will be same like in air.

Offline Gunther #5 on: November 22, 2012, 05:30:42 PM

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I wonder how many people will buy the game just because there was a real and working flying alien.
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Offline Lancer #6 on: November 22, 2012, 06:38:14 PM

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I wonder how many people will buy the game just because there was a real and working flying alien.

NS2 has a flying alien, and it's controls are...SMOOTH.
It's my fav alien :D

Offline mario #7 on: November 22, 2012, 09:04:08 PM

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I wonder how many people will buy the game just because there was a real and working flying alien.
I would but i wanna know the cost and how the purchase is done?

1) do we donate? and show proof to admin
2) Do we buy it regularly and it automatically gives you the link and everything....

Offline Loki #8 on: November 22, 2012, 09:12:28 PM

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ability to gain very fast speed
That translates into open spaces.
That translates into Massdriver camp.
Unless you could evolve to "flying alien" and then to goon and higher. Or if goon is below "flying alien" than to AdvGoon.
exactly, how will you evolve as a tyrant on the wall?

It would look funny if you saw an alien doing that xD

I think they forbid it cos of bug stucking in wall when doing that.

Offline mario #9 on: November 22, 2012, 09:15:10 PM

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ability to gain very fast speed
That translates into open spaces.
That translates into Massdriver camp.
Unless you could evolve to "flying alien" and then to goon and higher. Or if goon is below "flying alien" than to AdvGoon.
exactly, how will you evolve as a tyrant on the wall?

It would look funny if you saw an alien doing that xD

I think they forbid it cos of bug stucking in wall when doing that.
true i can imagine a lot of problems with that xD

Offline Gunther #10 on: November 23, 2012, 05:30:11 AM

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Hey Rota, any luck with the "wall-walking boots"?  :D
(Although you got a ladder, so, close I guess)
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Offline ViruS #11 on: November 24, 2012, 10:10:31 AM

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3. Attack with vampire biting, ability to gain very fast speed, wings can be damaged.
Does this mean:
-Steals health by biting
-"Fast speed" >=2000 ups [My gpp marauder can achieve 2000 ups within ~5 seconds without walls, my normal dragoon can get to this in about 3 pounces/~2.5 seconds if i am allowed to use jump key as well]
-Fast Acceleration - like the KoRx spitfire flying alien?
-Below 20% health, or a sudden loss of 50% health or more results in loss of flying ability for 20 seconds?
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Offline Rotacak #12 on: November 26, 2012, 02:38:39 PM

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Hey Rota, any luck with the "wall-walking boots"?  :D
(Although you got a ladder, so, close I guess)
There will be no such thing (atlest now). You have jetpack, ladder and engine to go into air.

3. Attack with vampire biting, ability to gain very fast speed, wings can be damaged.
Does this mean:
1 - Steals health by biting
2 - "Fast speed" >=2000 ups [My gpp marauder can achieve 2000 ups within ~5 seconds without walls, my normal dragoon can get to this in about 3 pounces/~2.5 seconds if i am allowed to use jump key as well]
3 - Fast Acceleration - like the KoRx spitfire flying alien?
4 - Below 20% health, or a sudden loss of 50% health or more results in loss of flying ability for 20 seconds?
1. Yes.
2. We cannot compare in game speed with something real yet and another thing is - it need be tested first. Not just give some number without testing in game. So now I can't tell you correct max speed.
3. Don't know acceleration from KoRx, but basically no. It will be slow acceleration. We will also try to implement gaining speed only while you flying down and losing while you flying up.
4. That is in KorX mod? You can fly if Overmind is up and if you have undamaged wings, regardless on your health.

Offline Gunther #13 on: November 26, 2012, 08:00:52 PM

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1) If the OM is down, you can't fly, even though you have wings?

2) So you have a damaged right wing. Will you only be able to spiral down to the right, or just fall flat when you jump like any alien?
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Offline grmg.pl #14 on: November 26, 2012, 09:24:55 PM

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So you have a damaged right wing. Will you only be able to spiral down to the right,
Right wing fascist fanatics. :D