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Off topic => Off topic => Topic started by: Loki on January 18, 2013, 06:53:05 PM
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Ok since here are so many IT engineers I find this forum very useful.
The problem is simple, when I set recommended vir. memory (6082 in MB), it doesn't show up on task manager and in performance it seems it didn't apply.
I remember when I was setting this memory on XP the memory showed up on Task manager also.
so what could be the problem of mine?
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Virtual Memory
so what could be the problem of mine?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148540 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148540)
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Virtual memory is basically a low-speed overflow area reserved on your harddrive for when your RAM is full, or when Windows wants to free up RAM and shove applications that aren't being used somewhere else.
Increasing the amount of virtual memory you have doesn't increase the computer's performance by any margin. If you have a decent amount of RAM (4gb+), you don't need a page file larger than 4gb. It does nothing other than use more harddrive space.
So basically, RAM and Virtual memory aren't the same thing, therefore you won't notice any difference under normal circumstances.
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Exactly, no amount of virtual is gonna make your computer faster, since its just a file on a hdd not a true memory. Not to mention that in order to put this file to use the data has to go through real memory first probably.
Buy more RAM or up the frequency on the current one.
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Exactly, no amount of virtual is gonna make your computer faster, since its just a file on a hdd not a true memory. Not to mention that in order to put this file to use the data has to go through real memory first probably.
Buy more RAM or up the frequency on the current one.
Got 4 GB DDR3 which's core is on 1333 MHz it's enough...
Well the whole point of virtual memory is that I am playing APB Reloaded which is very RAM and procesor demanding game.
As far as I learnt RAM is memory for procesor if the procesor is slow for data which are being loaded by its cores. So basically virtual memory should store more of datas which wouldnt fully load RAM. Or am I wrong?
Anyway I want solution for that problem
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so what could be the problem of mine?
Windows.
Install a better system (any one you can think of will do) and it should work.
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4GB RAM is enough for APB Reloaded. If you have bad performance in the game, then you have slow computer or a different problem. Size of virtual memory cannot solve this.
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4GB RAM is enough for APB Reloaded. If you have bad performance in the game, then you have slow computer or a different problem. Size of virtual memory cannot solve this.
Bah barely. APB Reloaded was taking 3900 out of 4000 MB from my RAM so there's the why.
Isn't it true that if the processor is slower, the more RAM is used?
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http://www.apbrwiki.com/wiki/System_Requirements (http://www.apbrwiki.com/wiki/System_Requirements)
Recommended:
OS: Windows Vista 64bit / Windows 7 64bit
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4GHz or equivalent
Memory: 4GB RAM
Video: NVidia GeForce 8800 GTX 512MB or equivalent
Accessories: Headset and microphone
Recommended for Max Settings:
OS: Windows 7 64bit
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4GHz or equivalent
Memory: 4GB RAM or more
Video: Two strong video cards (Nvidia 200 series or higher)
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4GB RAM is enough for APB Reloaded. If you have bad performance in the game, then you have slow computer or a different problem. Size of virtual memory cannot solve this.
Bah barely. APB Reloaded was taking 3900 out of 4000 MB from my RAM so there's the why.
Isn't it true that if the processor is slower, the more RAM is used?
Not at all.
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very RAM and procesor demanding game.
Virtual memory will not fix this.
Main CPU speed and RAM usage are independent from another. A faster CPU, larger RAM cards, and better GPUs will improve your system speed, along with a faster hard drive and in some instances, better cooling.
Examples:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115229 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115229)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787)
I'm probably going to start a debate over AMD/Intel and Radeon/Nvidea by posting this, but it shows the effects of good and bad hardware cooling, and the difference quality makes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nU_rvVEna4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nU_rvVEna4)
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Ijs, Medic is right. No amount of virtual memory will fix this. You need more RAM. Which isn't the same.
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Bottom line is, if your computer can't handle the game as it is now, it may be time to consider an upgrade. Hardware stats are pretty much fixed unless you get into overclocking, and even then, the benefits from that are usually marginal at best (+2~10% system speed while stable?).
It may be more worthwhile to get a completely new computer if your current is more than say, 6~7 years old... trying to upgrade a 1998 Compaq or better usually doesn't end well.
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The big problem is it's notebook. Overclock? Barely. It's Locked. Even with MSI Afterburner.
@grmg: I saw them, the procesor doesn't fit in there I know.
Anyway somehow I made the game kinda stable :p
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Built a Hewlett Packard gaming lappy: $699
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/load_configuration.do?destination=review&config_id=7730657#a (http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/load_configuration.do?destination=review&config_id=7730657#a)
Some real fine stats thar on that hardware for the price.
Depending on what you plan on using that for, you'd want to up the memory a bit though... I idle at 3.85Gb with Windows 7. With Skyrim running on full settings and the 2K texture pack installed, I use about 6.5Gb, and run around 50 FPS with a similar GPU and processor.
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When I'll get a job, surely it'll be easier.
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I could play APB fine on 2GB RAM, Core 2 duo E8400 and GTX 560 (a little bit of bottleneck, I know).
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I could play APB fine on 2GB RAM, Core 2 duo E8400 and GTX 560 (a little bit of bottleneck, I know).
So it's processor then...? GGGGGawddddddddd hhhhhhartatak
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Could be Ram.
Could be CPU.
Could be GPU.
Need a full list of system specs to give you a definitive answer.
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Could be Ram.
Could be CPU.
Could be GPU.
Need a full list of system specs to give you a definitive answer.
GPU runs on constant 50 fps.
4 GB RAM DDR3 @1333 MHz
Intel Pentium B960 @2.2 GHz (2 cores)
500 GB HDD
AMD HD Radeon 7610m
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GPU: AMD Radeon 7610M (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+7610M&id=308)
It's an entry-level, low power gaming card, but it *should* be able to handle something like the game you're trying to play... APB-R didn't look extremely graphics intensive by any means at first glance.
DDR3 RAM is good for gaming, although again, 4Gb is pretty shy, which we already know.
CPU: Intel Pentium B960 clocked at 2.2 GHz (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+B960+%40+2.20GHz&id=1095)
Not bad, doesn't compete with a Core i-series, but it should work fine for moderate intensity games, I don't see any issues with the game you're trying to play.
My guess would be that RAM is your biggest bottleneck for the moment... some laptops have upgradable RAM, so that may be an option.
A demonstration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yirNejnzbEM) on how a RAM upgrade is performed.
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I got next DDR3 slot, one 4 GB ram costs 37 € so that's not worth it so far cos I've got no money :D
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$50 for RAM is nothing.... considering it will probably make your $500 computer run so much smoother.
If I were you, I'd start saving for a RAM upgrade if I was even half-serious about gaming.
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I just did a little more research...
I checked Nomad's card, and it's a killer: Nvidea GTX 560 (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+560&id=71).
If you two have about the same hardware except for GPUs, I'm guessing that your graphics card may not have enough power to run the game, if he's running it smoothly.
Unfortunately... Laptop GPUs cannot be replaced cheaply.
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I can play APB fine on highest settings, but, my CPU is bad and causes a big bottleneck and now I have 6 GB of RAM.
I play DayZ on lowest settings on average 10 fps :D
I don't think it's RAM's fault in Loki's case. I also have 4 GB RAM on my laptop, together with core i5-460m and geforce gt 420m, and as far as I can remember, I could run APB fine on like med-high settings.
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I play DayZ on lowest settings on average 10 fps
That's entirely your CPU, I can get 30~40, and your card is twice as powerful as my 6770M.
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I play DayZ on lowest settings on average 10 fps
That's entirely your CPU, I can get 30~40, and your card is twice as powerful as my 6770M.
Yes, I know. On my laptop I get more, about 14 fps. I'll probably buy an i5-2550k, do you think it's a good idea? Wouldn't it be better if I bought an i7? I'd use it mostly for gaming, I don't work with any graphics programs. Well I work with sony vegas like 2 times a year, but that's all.
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Depends on what you need, but the i7-3770K (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3770K+%40+3.50GHz&id=2) is the most cost-effective CPU Intel makes in the price range.
Compered to the i5-2550k (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-2550K+%40+3.40GHz&id=813).
On Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501)
Both look like good processors though, and both should be just dandy for the gaming you're talking about. My i5 2.5GHz (mobile) runs Skyrim at 50FPS, lol.
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The funny thing is that I can run apb reloaded on highest but it's almost same fps as on lowest. Kinda weird.
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Depends on what you need, but the i7-3770K (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3770K+%40+3.50GHz&id=2) is the most cost-effective CPU Intel makes in the price range.
Compered to the i5-2550k (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-2550K+%40+3.40GHz&id=813).
On Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501)
Both look like good processors though, and both should be just dandy for the gaming you're talking about. My i5 2.5GHz (mobile) runs Skyrim at 50FPS, lol.
How so? I could not run Skyrim even on lowest, I got like 10 fps with similiar specs to yours.
I have an i5 M 460 2.53GHz, 4 GB RAM and Nvidia GeForce GT 420 M 2 GB, win 7 64 bit. DayZ is the same as on my desktop PC. Where's the problem?
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Lol joke? My same rig runs Skyrim on decent 40 fps on high quality
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Nomad, your problem could be use of your graphic cards, As I see you have dedicated card, but there is usually also Integrated Intel HD graphics that is automaticaly used most time because of low power consumption,
1. Check your graphic card drivers and DirectX driver versions and actualise it
2. Look for graphic configuration for apps, GeForce usually has it in Control panel options where can you configure what applications do you want to run with dedicated graphics and what you run with Intel HD, and also set options for them.
And as I see Loki's problem, his spect should be enought to run game like that, so it software problem, check your DirectX and also look for newest drivers, I had same problem with some games running on my PC, I lowered details and so on but FPS was still same, updating my drivers helped.
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My problem isn't about graphic card. RAM is overloaded and processor is also. Streaming 100 customizated characters, 60 customizated vehicles, persistent world that kinda makes processor work
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I changed my post, your Graphic card can be as fast as you want but without drivers it wont fully use it's potential .
I checked specs needed for your game and it seems to be demanding mainly CPU performance, so try to change your settings related to physics ingame that is done mostly by processor on laptops with mobile graphics.
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If you know some UT3 physics commands go on feel free to write it down here for me :)
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I'm sorry, I still havnt got in touch any longer than few hours with UT3 engine.
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I'm sorry, I still havnt got in touch any longer than few hours with UT3 engine.
Lol that was ironic but nvm :P
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I always set a game to use the main GPU in the NVIDIA control panel after installing it. How do I update DirectX?
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You download the newest release?
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You download the newest release?
y "download gt 420m"