and now we are comparing operating systems to methods of transport? oh dear, oh dear indeed...

MS windows is no more user friendly than linux,

ammeter was a fail spell checker :3

what you missed is that linux has a much more promising future than MAC, so will still take off, and overtake MS windows.

of course hardware is relevant! how isn't it? you claimed that linux was slower, the speed is a combination of the hardware and the software, and with both operating systems on the same hardware, linux is faster.

Tremulous 2 is not releasing for Linux or Mac.  Send the developers an e-mail if you want to talk to them further about the possibilities of it releasing for Mac or Linux.  This thread holds no informational value at this point.

o.0 i thought there was going to be a MAC release....

Okay, first off, I'd like to point out that your claim that "if people knew about it, they would use it" is completely and utterly false.
Out of the 20 people that I know know about Linux, only 2 of them actually use it. I'm not one of those people because I don't want to deal with the unreliability and bugs in opensource bullshit software.
 
Medic is right. Projects absolutely need to have a financial drive behind them if nothing else to be successful. Take a look at every Linux server OS there is, and you'll see Red Hat at the top. Why is this you ask? It's closed-source, proprietary, offers all the same compatibilities/incompatibilites as any other version of Linux, and is maintained by a company who is being paid an assload of money to keep it smooth.

Linux may be faster overall, but that's not true about many of them. If you take something like Zorin-OS, it takes just as long as Windows if not longer to boot. Ubuntu is definitely heading in that direction.

Also, I'm also surprised if there won't be a Mac release. There shouldn't be much additional coding required because UE3 is Mac-compatible. (Forgive my ignorance if it's not that simple.)

Edit: If anyone saw me put Fedora in place of Red Hat Linux, get your judgement off of me. They're both headwear. >.>

open source (...) - whimsical fun-having of the people that like to code

There, you nailed it.

Thats why most popular games and software are made by companies and not open source. You need a drive (we make a great game, have fun making it and earn a shitload of $ afterwards) and means to do it successfully ($, management, goal setting, feedback loop etc.).

Personally, I think T2 being undertaken as a commercial project is the greatest landmark in Trem history.

Front page material, so true

means the devs must make it good, must make it popular, and must make us like it.

Bad games do not get popular. You have to deliver in FIRST version or GTFO.

Anyway, for the previous post Medic gets "1 karma per year".

USEFUL software (not video games)...
Microsoft's software is hugely inferior to Linux...

I asked you to provide examples. Do so if you can.

the hadron collider for one example

Sure, it is a great exaple of amazing technology, but a bad example here, you cannot compare it to anything for there is only ONE lhc

once again i am looking at whats happening in the future

Well, in your future, does T2 get released for linux?

Of course software is integrated in hardware development!

Give examples, outside the gaming please.

win is shit, just most people don't know there's a better alternative

I've worked on some ubuntu few years ago. Can't really tell how is one worse or better than the other.

everything that "makes the world run"

Sure, but we're not talking about running a industrial-grade stuff (in which unix and derivatives win, hand down) but about home computers.

And you've been using the same software for 3 years?

Well, since I have no need to run Vista, 7 or 8, why would I install it? Because it has a higher number in name?

see the new world...

Example?

what you missed is that linux has a much more promising future than MAC, so will still take off, and overtake MS windows.

Hahahahahahahahaha



Again Gareth, give examples next time.

I've worked on some ubuntu few years ago. Can't really tell how is one worse or better than the other.

Yeah, except one is less buggy and more people use it. :f
I would always get fed up with Windows, and move to Ubuntu for like, 2 months, until I got fed up by the lack of decent compatible software that I know how to use, and the ridiculous number of bugs that it has keeping me from being able to work efficiently.
IMO, Canonical needs to stop releasing major annual updates to Ubuntu and try to perfect each version before anything else.

Now mind you, I'm not a Windows  fanboy, and I realize that their OS really is starting to die. (Mostly because of Windows 8 *shudder*) I will gladly switch OSes as long as it has Adobe compatibility, Steam and game compatibility, a non-glitchy Skype, Spotify, is easy to install Chrome on, etc.

Basically, I'm leaving it up to the developers to give me a reason to completely trash Windows.
I've been using Windows 7 since it came out, and have been nothing but happy with it aside from my own shortcomings with system maintenance.

There will be a Mac release.

It sounds like most of this conversation is bent on getting more post count than real fact.
If you want to keep going at it about who's better or worse, PM spam or post in the off-topic section.

if any of the bugs you find stop you using it, you should move to a much simpler version of Linux... you do realise there are different distributions of Linux? OR, don't update to the most recent version, keep an update or two behind, you don't need to be to smart to work this out for yourself...

and again grmg learn to read what i have said

Yes, I know that there are dozens of different distributions, and the bugs aren't the biggest issue. It's the lack of decent software.

Linux could be the fastest most amazingly secure operating system that has ever existed, but without application support, nobody is going to use it.

And Gunther is right. This is ridiculous, and you're trying to prove points that nobody here agrees with.

Can someone close this thread?
Points have been made enough, right? >.>

Linux is faster

It's not.

The open source community fixes it, unlike microsoft who don't care about their customers

Uninformed nab. Ever heard about windows auto update? Service packs?

just proving your lack of knowledge about different software platforms

Lol, who's talking

-It is to. I can't run windows or macintosh on my VM program, but Linux can. This is pure evidence.
-Isn't that a + side to linux?
-Last time i partitianed my HDD it completely died off. This was a macintosh btw.

Tremulous 2 is not releasing for Linux or Mac.  Send the developers an e-mail if you want to talk to them further about the possibilities of it releasing for Mac or Linux.  This thread holds no informational value at this point.

https://www.facebook.com/tremulous2game?fref=ts

There's a title that says that is supports macintosh and windows.

if any of the bugs you find stop you using it, you should move to a much simpler version of Linux... you do realise there are different distributions of Linux? OR, don't update to the most recent version, keep an update or two behind

So much for 'superior open-source technology'.

Yeah, you pretty much just killed every single one of your last 10 posts. 





Pardon me while I

TROLOLO

how have I, i have just helped you realise you are not able to comprehend software development as use a developing piece of software, I have not comprehended any of my points...

anyway, this is my last post on this matter as gunther is right, this has gone far enough.

if any of the bugs you find stop you using it, you should move to a much simpler version of Linux... you do realise there are different distributions of Linux? OR, don't update to the most recent version, keep an update or two behind

So much for 'superior open-source technology'.

lol I just use ubuntu 10.1 meerkat somthing... Trem 1.1 can't be compiled on ubuntu 12 so i won't update it at all, except for the libraries from u.11

grmg learn to read what i have said

Fortunately for my mind, it is not mandatory to do so

how have I, i have just helped you realise you are not able to comprehend software development as use a developing piece of software, I have not comprehended any of my points...

lol, what?

how have I, i have just helped you realise you are not able to comprehend software development as use a developing piece of software, I have not comprehended any of my points...

lol, what?

I didn't understand that either.