software development as use a developing piece of software, I have not comprehended any of my points...

anyway, this is my last post on this matter as gunther is right, this has gone far enough.

This thread holds no informational value at this point.

Beat you to it by about 16 hours, 15 minutes, and 53 seconds.

There will be no Linux version.

I think many current users will be not happy same as me if the project is not

- on linux
- open source

as Unva is , with the kicstarter idea from other post, if other engine is used there is no much reason for doing it otherway.

There are many grand and open-source engines, e.g. Doom 3 level of graphics (the techincal, not the art) is enough imo.

Game will be paid for, plain and simple. No Linux version as the engine does not support it, also plain and simple. Why is this hard to grasp? If you don't like, don't buy.

Game will be paid for, plain and simple. No Linux version as the engine does not support it, also plain and simple. Why is this hard to grasp? If you don't like, don't buy.

Game can be payable while open-source, as all Doom and Quake where (art files where copyrighted under ACTA-SOPA part of the world).

If game would be in this way then I know I would buy it, otherwise not so interesting.

Btw linuxes soon will be majority of devices, and are already a majority on mobiles, with windows fading, but that is not now relevant to this game which is obviously for desktop. btw who knows how popular android consoles will be in 2 years?.

But linux is 1-2% on desktop now. More important question could be how is current TREM USERBASE divided, I bet 10-80% are Linux.
And then will Trem2 aim to recap this community, including all former and "possible" players which can be quite big community, or totally ignore this market and instead go for hardcore gamers.

I think many current users will be not happy same as me if the project is not

- on linux
- open source

 - No Linux.
 - Closed source commercial undertaking, selling for ~$19.99 on Steam.
 

There are many grand and open-source engines, e.g. Doom 3 level of graphics (the techincal, not the art) is enough imo.

Game is being developed for Unreal Engine 3.  Open source engines can't come close.

Game will be paid for, plain and simple. No Linux version as the engine does not support it, also plain and simple. Why is this hard to grasp? If you don't like, don't buy.

^^^

Game can be payable while open-source, as all Doom and Quake where (art files where copyrighted under ACTA-SOPA part of the world).

Doom, Quake, and T1.1/1.2 all have shitty-ass graphics, physics, and abilities within their engines, no matter how fun they are.  Welcome to 2012 - get up to speed, or go back to Doom.

If game would be in this way then I know I would buy it, otherwise not so interesting.

So even if T2 servers will be as customizable as they were T1.1, you still won't buy it if you can't see the source code?  Derp.

But linux is 1-2% on desktop now. More important question could be how is current TREM USERBASE divided, I bet 10-80% are Linux.
And then will Trem2 aim to recap this community, including all former and "possible" players which can be quite big community, or totally ignore this market and instead go for hardcore gamers.

The engine can't support Linux.  Period.

The devs are not using another engine.  Period.

The devs are not giving away a game they have quit their jobs to make.  Period.

UE3 isn't compatible with linux, UE4 will be at least I heard so.

Doom, Quake, and T1.1/1.2 all have shitty-ass graphics, physics, and abilities within their engines, no matter how fun they are.  Welcome to 2012 - get up to speed, or go back to Doom.

This is the point you are missing, nigga: if I would like wank off to zomg 3D with trilinear anisotropic x32 ftw graphical wankfest, then I would not be at all a Tremulous player today.
I would be a Halo or other shit player.
Question is which community is the target and how big part of current Trem/Unva players will not play T2 if it is not linux/opensource.

On example:
- adding to game new building - x2 more fun
- adding to game blood + sounds effect when headshot - x2 more fun
- adding to that above headshot effect will be trilinear with x16 AA on edges of sprites - I do not give two fucks about it.

So even if T2 servers will be as customizable as they were T1.1, you still won't buy it if you can't see the source code?  Derp.

For starters because I don't use windows.
If it would run very well on wine then perhaps yes.

The engine can't support Linux.  Period.
The devs are not using another engine.  Period.

Well maybe you have a period, but this can be changed (other engine) or can change (engine being ported).

The devs are not giving away a game they have quit their jobs to make.  Period.

No one said that they should give up money.
Can your brain comprehend that open source often makes shitloads of money?

I think Quake/Doom sales where pretty neat.

This is the point you are missing, nigga

Wow, I really pissed you off, didn't I?

Question is which community is the target and how big part of current Trem/Unva players will not play T2 if it is not linux/opensource.

Steam community is the target audience, as it is ultimately there that they will be releasing the game.  Steam users often demand high graphical intensity and very smooth, refined gameplay.

sprites

No.

Well maybe you have a period, but this can be changed (other engine) or can change (engine being ported).

Send the devs an E-mail.  See what happens.

AAA-Games is a private organization, and they're in it for money in the long run.  It's ultimately their call.  So far, every answer we've seen indicates they're firmly sticking to UE3.

Can your brain comprehend that open source often makes shitloads of money?

Last I checked, open source software could be copied and pasted.  Not much money involved in copying and pasting.

graphical wankfest

It's not a necessity for a fun game, but it ain't gonna hurt anyone.

Question is which community is the target and how big part of current Trem/Unva players

Ask Rota

Well maybe you have a period, but this can be changed (other engine)

Who the fuck's gonna change engines when you have assets being done?

or can change (engine being ported).

Not even the orginal desighners of the engine deemed linux a worthy audience.

Can your brain comprehend that open source often makes shitloads of money?

Give an example.

This is the point you are missing, nigga

Wow, I really pissed you off, didn't I?

Nigger, please. Really

other questions replied along with the other post below.

Well maybe you have a period, but this can be changed (other engine)

Who the fuck's gonna change engines when you have assets being done?

Really all models are done and all needed to do now is export the final version tomorrow and release beta next week? Nonsense.

At this stage it should be trivial to have same model used in other engine.

Modern engines should support same formats, and exporting it probably least worry of the 3d artists.
It's the reason why even amateur kids exported models between Q1,Q2,Q3, Doom and so on, changing engines.

Can your brain comprehend that open source often makes shitloads of money?

Give an example.

Open source mozilla/firefox gets millions, e.g. 56,000,000 $ in year 2006 from Google (biggest sponsor) alone.

Linux Android is most popular operating system on smartphones and is even better founded for sure


Btw.:

Not even the orginal desighners of the engine deemed linux a worthy audience.

And Nokia didn't considered Linux a good OS for phone after 2010 and they chosen loldows 8 phone.
Btw this decision seems to be main reason why nokia circles the drain next to Blackberry/RMI.

Linux mobile (as openmoko) was not a success but just 2 years later Android sure is.

Maybe it will happen to world of gaming too, maybe not, but you can not use this logic of yours to say it will definitely not happen.

ppl calm the funk down stop being racist 'bout niggas because trolleybus really eat hamburgers

exporting it probably least worry of the 3d artists

Having done some basic experiments with Freespace and FreeAllegiance, I must say that it was not the easiest part.

It's the reason why even amateur kids exported models between Q1,Q2,Q3, Doom and so on, changing engines.

Have you actually seen this or are you pulling stuff out of your ass to suit you?

Open source mozilla/firefox gets millions, e.g. 56,000,000 $ in year 2006 from Google (biggest sponsor) alone.

How the fuck do you imagine that with open source games? Silly nab

Linux Android is most popular operating system on smartphones and is even better founded for sure

Initially developed by Android, Inc., whom Google financially backed and later purchased in 2005

So you see, Android is not open-source-done-like-most. It is based on linux, sure, but the developing and release owns its success to Google managers, not to Google programmers coding in their spare time.

to say it will definitely not happen.

It will definitely not happen. Linux community doesn't have the power, the money, the motivation  and the drive do release something as popular as windows. Get over it.

Open source mozilla/firefox gets millions, e.g. 56,000,000 $ in year 2006 from Google (biggest sponsor) alone.

How the fuck do you imagine that with open source games? Silly nab

Like this:

Wasteland 2 is an upcoming post-apocalyptic role-playing video game and is under development by inXile Entertainment and Obsidian Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X and Linux.

Wasteland 2 Kickstarter ended on the April 17,
raising a total of $2,933,252

Bam!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasteland_2

Problem :} ?

Though it is now a fact that cross-platform open-source games can make loads of money, still ofc. Rota is free to do what ever with his company and his game. Just saying way as above is possible